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I am of the opinion that Bruce Ismay did express the view to Captain Smith that it was both possible and desirable for the Titanic to arrive in New York on Tuesday evening. Olympic arrived early on her second, third and fourth westbound voyages in 1911. My view with regard to Titanic is largely, yet not entirely, based on Elizabeth Lines’ October 1913 statement to the Limitation of Liability hearings. There are a number of other sources.

If you are interested about this topic, you may find J. Kent Layton’s paper interesting:

http://www.atlanticliners.com/Article%20The%20Arrival%20That%20Never%20Took%20Place.pdf

I am not sure if the direct link would work – however, if you scroll down on this page (http://www.atlanticliners.com/atlantic_liners_news.htm ) then you can click on the link: ‘9/6/2005:
A new monograph on the arrival of the Titanic in New York has been prepared. Get ready to delve into one of the most detailed considerations of this subject to date.’

Best wishes,

Mark.

i'm sure he did..but we will never know 100%....it was capt smith's last crossing after a very long and wonderful life at sea...i'm sure getting to NY early would have been the icing on the cake....but i also think that had capt smith gotten all the iceberg warnings...he would have done something to prevent the disaster....remember the last one from the californian was trapped in ice not far away and tried to warn titanic and philips replyed,"shut up shut up i'm busy, i'm in the middle of cape race" i think many people made mistakes that night..but sadly the capt is responsible for the safty of his ship and passangers...

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That's what makes the topic so interesting. All we can do is view the body of evidence in its totality, assess it and form opinions -- some different from others. Kent addresses many of your points in his paper (which I referenced above).

Best wishes,

Mark.

i tried to access the page and it wouldn't load for me...all i got was a blank screen

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It's a pdf. document -- so you need Adobe Acrobat Reader to view it. Sometimes you need to 'minus' your browser to the toolbar, and click the 'view in Adobe' sign that appears behind where your browser window was (if one does).

Or you could try accessing it through the second link I provided, which leads you to the links page and then the article.

It's a pity -- it's a thirty-odd page discussion, very detailed and interesting.

Best wishes,

Mark.

Just had a quick read of the thread, and although it may be resolved/forgotten whatever, I think a little small reminder to the kids out there to watch ur dam mouth. Titanic King I doubt anyone wants to 'mess' with someone for new orleans, however place of origin does not indeed make ur self the same as those around u, e.g growing up in the hood macking u a gangster.....

However I can see why you would think it was 'rude' to interupt your query, however, note that the original post of this thread clearly ask's a question refering to gates, if u feel the need to ask another, perhaps make a new thread? Though I can see as the topic heading is pretty vauge, you can ask something of a similar nature. The interuption, was a reply to the threads initial question, and as most forms would have me belive, any post after the original question, is in responce to that question.

New questions deserve new thread, though tbh, almost any question u can think of has already been covered.

Now i am off to the sea side :)

I recieved a brass disk that has the words NAVIGATOR QUARTERS S.S. TITANIC. There is a circle with two overlaping stars between the word quarters and S.S. Titanic. It has the N,S,E,W,at each point of the top star. The disk is 2 and a half inches rounded at the top and bottom rectangle with a small whole at the top --maybe to be used as a key chain. I do not know if this is from the ship or a suvenior. There is a stamp on the back that has what looks like the word solid but I can not make out the bottom word. Can you help me?

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Try a new thread! Enjoy.