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Re: who's fault was it that the titanic sank?
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U_just_might_sink said: to let all you people know, we are not certian that bruce ismay had that meeting with cpt. smith. its called hollywood people.


Actually, Mrs. Lucean P. Smith stated under testimony that she overheard Ismay talking about the ship's speed when she was sitting by them in the reception room. If I remember correctly, she said Ismay stated "we did better on today"s run than we did yesterday, we will beat the Olympic (her maiden voyage record) and get into New York on Tuesday night".

So the scean in Cameron's movie was a little Hollywood, but it did seem to have at least some factual basis.


Agreed, though Ismay did denie it quite strongly,

Enquiry:

'Did you have occasion to consult with the captain about the speed or movement of the ship' Enquirer (I forget who exactly)

'Never' Ismays rebutle

I guess it is his word against her's to be honest, knowone else heard it (bar smith but he cant exactly say anything) so depends whom you want to believe, Ismay was vilanised by the press and is probably one of the most disliked charectors in recent history.

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Re: who's fault was it that the titanic sank?
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U_just_might_sink said: to let all you people know, we are not certian that bruce ismay had that meeting with cpt. smith. its called hollywood people.


Actually, Mrs. Lucean P. Smith stated under testimony that she overheard Ismay talking about the ship's speed when she was sitting by them in the reception room. If I remember correctly, she said Ismay stated "we did better on today"s run than we did yesterday, we will beat the Olympic (her maiden voyage record) and get into New York on Tuesday night".

So the scean in Cameron's movie was a little Hollywood, but it did seem to have at least some factual basis.


Agreed, though Ismay did denie it quite strongly,

Enquiry:

'Did you have occasion to consult with the captain about the speed or movement of the ship' Enquirer (I forget who exactly)

'Never' Ismays rebutle

I guess it is his word against her's to be honest, knowone else heard it (bar smith but he cant exactly say anything) so depends whom you want to believe, Ismay was vilanised by the press and is probably one of the most disliked charectors in recent history.

Martyn


Actually, it was Elisabeth Lines who overheard Ismay talking with Smith about Titanic's early arrival.

Even though that particular incident was not witnessed by any other survivor, Ismay is known to have lied about not knowing if additional boilers were going to be lit that day. (In 1915 multiple survivors testified that Ismay himself told them about those additional boilers being lit.) Ismay's falsehoods regarding the boilers do not inspire much confidence in his similar denial of the truth of the Ismay-Smith conversation.

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Actually, it was Elisabeth Lines who overheard Ismay talking with Smith about Titanic's early arrival.

Even though that particular incident was not witnessed by any other survivor, Ismay is known to have lied about not knowing if additional boilers were going to be lit that day. (In 1915 multiple survivors testified that Ismay himself told them about those additional boilers being lit.) Ismay's falsehoods regarding the boilers do not inspire much confidence in his similar denial of the truth of the Ismay-Smith conversation.


Absolutely, Achmet. It's unfortunate that is the case, but it's entirely true.

What should always be borne in mind is that -- on top of the inevitable defects in human memory -- some of the witnesses at the enquiries into the disaster had their own reasons why they did not wish to tell the whole truth.

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The scean in Cameron's movie was a little Hollywood, but it did seem to have at least some factual basis.


Absolutely.

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no one it sank because i hit an iceberg it was nones fault so dont blame if youy dont no what happend
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it was no ones so dont blame ok
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no one it sank because i hit an iceberg it was nones fault so dont blame if youy dont no what happend


I'm a little confused as to which comments you're responding to? Who disputed that Titanic hit an iceberg? And who said that they did not know what happened?

I agree that an opinion (as regards what we might call a nexus of evidence) needs to be an informed one to have any merit. That is why exchanging views is so useful in increasing our collective knowledge.

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