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The Movie was disappointing
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The New Titanic Movie was absolutly awfull!!!!!!! The effects were good....but that was it, the story was flawed, a story like the one seen in the film would never have happened in real life, my great uncle went down with the titanic and I'm sure he turned in his grave when that shamble of a movie was made, I was disgusted by the behavior of the characters in it, such as Jack dawson being able to socialise on deck with 1st class passengers in nothing but his dirty rags on, the language used would never had been spoken, it was completely unrealistic and pathetic!!!!!.....good actors apart from Dicaprio were wasted on this stupid Movie that doesn't deserve the rights to be called a Titanic movie.............A Night to Remember is far better at least that one told the truth and did not re-write history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry to dissappoint most of you but the story between Jack and Rose would never have happened in a Billion years....it was just not possible......James Cameron doesn't seem to understand that the Edwardian era was different to the 1990's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hello

New Here and thought I needed to respond to this post. While you are entitled to your opinion. I dont think it's right to bash James Camron considering the ridiculous amount of detail he put into the the movie, and yes it is VERY accurate. Of course Jack and Rose (and some of thier associates) did not exist, but do you seriously think that there was not one woman who decided to hang back because their husband could not board with them. If I recall correctly, Mrs. Isador Straus her self got off a life boat because she did not want to leave her husband. Even though Jack and Rose didnt exist, I think they were a great representation of what many couples had to go through on the ship that night.

The only thing I find disappointing is the way people spend so much time focusing on Jack and Rose, and not the entire story. From what I've read around the internet it's like story of the Titanic is way in the background somewhere and that this movie was ALL about Jack and Rose. I dont know what James Cameron was attempting with Jack and Rose, but here's how I look at it; though the characters were fictional, the made the whole experince more personlized and in my mind, making me realized couples on the ship had to endure. Jack and Rose became just as much a part of the very historically accurate "background" as if they were true victims (despite the flaws you mention of having a 3rd class in rags in an area they would be allowed).

Even if you dont appreciate the "Jack and Rose" part of the movie, you must appreciate the detail Jim put into it. I mean for goodness sakes he forfeited his own pay check to finish a movie he didnt even think was going to be big. He went diving to the wreck of Titanic, he had Titanic historians by his side, and he even had the makes of the furnishings on Titanic recreate the same furnature. Not to mention the accuracy of the wood and iron work. I think it's unbelievable the amount of detail he put into this movie.

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Posted on: 2004/10/11 18:20
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I like people like james cameron. People thrive on energy and he is one of them. These people are like Donald trump and stuff like that, it just builts and builts. The latest IMAX movie he made was not mainly for the money thing but to restate his desire to make good movies about titanic, all the other titanic movies were not even close and are not even mentioned these days.

The romance is off course put in there, the movie was at risk of not earning money and a as a business you better make sure you don't loose money so that you make alot of people bad mood.
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i know i have not been here for a little while, but when did the movie come out and what movie are you talking about? im seriously lost.
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I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, I know Jim put alot of effort into the Movie but it wasn't done very well at all, if he wanted to show what so many people went through that night, why didn't he use true stories? I understand that he wanted it to be romantic but for a 1st class lady to fall in love with a first class tramp (because that is what he was) would just not have happened in 1912, he got the detail right for sure, and hats off to him for doing the sinking really well, but I didn't find it gripping enough, there was no others stories in the movie at all, all it was, was Jack and Rose, For somone who didn't know about Titanic before jims version will think that what he portrade in his movie is fact when it isn't and it makes what really happened on that night look like somthing that it wasn't. I still think that a better Titanic movie will be made and that Movie will be the Ultimate Titanic Movie, Jim did a pretty good version himself, but there are tons of other Titanic Movies and he did not top them all at all, i still think a beterr one should be made and that one will be the one that tops them all.
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i think you're wrong there. the movie was good. it had a lot of good stuff, historical facts and it was capturing. it was one of the best movies ive ever seen and apperantly a lot of people thought so, because after more than 7 years, there still isnt a movie that has made more money than the titanic. when i saw the movie i didnt know anything about the titanic. its true, in 1912 it wouldnt have been possible for a first class person to get together with third class passenger, not only like a love story but only to talk. especially on titanic. james's movie was pretty good and its one of the best ever made about titanic, at least in my opinion.
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Why couldnt Jim have used a true story? Well because no one knows the intimate details of anyone's life aboard the ship, other than the experience of the sinking. In my opinion it would have been disrespectful and fraudulant even, to use two real victims and make up a story this big about them. There just isnt enough info. on any of them to do something like that. All they knew is that some wives were unwilling to leave their husbands, and they portraid that in the scene when the couple is on their bed as the room is filling with water, and another scene when a young wife is TORN away from her husband as she is yelling "no" and crying.

As far as the accuracy of Jack and Rose intermingling, well if I recall Jack did spend most all of his time in the area he "belonged" and only the one time in first class when it appears he was escorted by Rose, then dressed for the part so no one noticed. When he went back in his normal clothes, he was denied entry, then kicked out. He had to disguise him self to get into first class, then after that, Jack and Rose spent the rest of their time running from everyone if I'm not mistaken lol, so I dont the accuracy is too far off here.

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True stories have been used in Titanic films before and they have been far better than James Camerons Film, he rushed the Sinking too, and he Made 1st officer Murdock shoot that irish Chap and then made him Shoot himself which Did not happen!!

And Actually there are hundreds of accounts of the sinking of the Titanic, have you never read Violet Jessops book? she goes into a lot of detail about the sinking, so does Molly Brown, so do many of the Survivors, in fact one in 30 of the survibors wrote books about their experiances on Titanic and some of it has been used before in other Titanic Movies and Documentaries. I have been interested in Titanic for a long time, long before the Newish Titanic movie was made and for me it was not as good as I thought it could have been, but the Sinking was done very well!, But A Night To Remember is far better!
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Yes, that's what I said, that there is much stuff written about the sinking of the Titanic, but not enough details about the victems them selves.

I agree with the scene where Murdoch shoots him self, that one makes me really very angry. That just was not right and the way Cameron did that, he might as well have taken some other victims and butured their stories too. He kinda messed up Molly Brown too. Speaking of the matter, does anyone know if Cameron ever apologized for that? Apparently 20th Century Fox did, but not sure if Cameron him self did. I'd honestly like to know what he (Cameron) was thinking when he wrote that into the script. I always figured the reason he didnt write Molly Brown's true actions into the script was because it would steal away the heroism from "Jack and Rose" (another annoying flaw in the movie)? Maybe the same with Murdoch, although that is a stupid reason because these people deserve that respect, and Murdoch could have easily gotten that in this movie without his true story being butured the way it was.

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Posted on: 2004/10/13 20:22
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