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What are some of the theories of why the first funnel collapsed?
I have heard things like it was the forward expansion joint that came open and that sudden movement caused its lines to snap. Another point James Cameron made was that some of the funnel's support lines were released because they were in the way of some of the forward lifeboats being lowered. What are your thoughts? |
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Posted on: 2006/11/8 14:46
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Ya, it would be sensible to belive, that when the forward expansion joint split, the forward funnel tipped over. Either that or it just went at to far an angle to sustain it's self, but I think the expansion failure caused it.
Never heard of the cables being removed...... Possible I guess, but I would of thought I'd see something about that by now... |
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Posted on: 2006/11/8 21:31
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Martyn wrote: Never heard of the cables being removed...... Possible I guess, but I would of thought I'd see something about that by now... Yes, last night after reading your post I looked for that info and found it in back of the Ghosts of the Abyss book. Cameron stated that when he re-constructed the Titanic set and sank it for the movie, the cables got in the way of the collapsable boats and the davits. Therefore, he speculated that it was possible that the cables were removed, in order to give the boats better access to the davits (that is, if they actually had time to fix them to the davits) |
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Posted on: 2006/11/9 14:29
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So, logically, they didn't cut the ropes.
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Posted on: 2006/11/25 23:37
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The last two Callaspables were cut from the ropes and floated around the first funnel untill it fell and a wave pushed them further away from the ship.
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Posted on: 2006/11/26 17:58
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This is a truth . . . But the funnel also crushed the swimmers in the water . . .
And btw, would it kill you to use better spelling and grammar, my good man? |
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Posted on: 2006/11/27 5:54
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They were never launched from the davits (The last two Callaspables) They were hooked up but had to be cut loose as the Bridge started to go under. Yes, I know the boats A and B were not launched from the davits. I'm sorry, I guess I was not clear with my language. What I was trying to explain what that James Cameron found the first funnel cables (guidelines, stays, or whatever they are called) in the way when they were filming them trying to take boats A and B to the davits. So, therefore, Cameron stated that it might be a possibility that in reality they moved a cable or two to hopes to launch a collapsible boat correctly. That first funnel falling is what always interested people, in that the other funnels aparently did not fall in the same manner (or if they did, there is not as much clear testimony as number 1 funnel). So what was it? The expansion joint opening suddenly, the stay cables maybe being moved, or a combination of both? |
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Posted on: 2006/11/27 14:49
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I'd like to point out too, funnels have been known to be swept away in heavy seas and high winds. They're made out of light metal to begin with. They're not as strong as the hull metal. Just my observation from the researching I've done over the years.
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Posted on: 2006/11/29 16:13
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True, I guess thats one of the reasons why you dont see too many funnels around wreck sites, they rust away faster.
Although there still is one around Britannic if I remember. Might be all that marine growth on it! |
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Posted on: 2006/11/29 16:18
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