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Re: What would you change? | #31 |
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I wouldn't say that at all. See Lightoller's, Lee's, and Symons' testimony at Lord Mersey's enquiry. The men's testimonies make for interesting reading. One regarded theory, based upon testimony, is that after David Blair (the ship's original second officer) left the ship, he neglected to inform anyone as to what he had done with the binoculars. It has been theorised that Blair left them locked in his cabin (which became Lightoller's). Lookout George Symons asked Lightoller about them, but Lightoller had a quick look in one of the officers' cabins (possibly Murdoch's) and could not find them -- apparently not looking in his own. Chief Officer Wilde confirmed to Symons that there were no binoculars for the lookouts. As I've said, there's more information in the enquiry transcripts and report, but we do know that the remaining officers appeared to be unaware of the location of any binoculars. Quote: i think it was treachery on titanic....! I'm not sure if you're joking, but I hardly think 'treachery' would be the right description. Oversight...perhaps; incompetence...maybe. Hardly 'treachery,' especially in view of the widely held belief that the binoculars' importance has been exaggerated, and my own comments about how they can even restrict someone's field of vision. If you're in school, try and enjoy it(!) -- the day goes much faster that way. ;) Best regards, Mark. |
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Posted on: 2005/11/8 16:55
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Re: What would you change? | #32 |
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erm.. hahaha i don't like school! i cannot enjoy it lol don't know if you can.. =P
lol... i have never of what you wrote before.. lol but there is a book called TITANIC&OLYMPIC, THE TRUTH BEHIND THE CONSPIRACY.. maybe you can buy it... sorry but im kinda busy..! cyaaaa  |
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Actually, people thought the Binoculars were left in South Hampton but they weren't left in South Hampton, People thought they were left and just saying I also Registered myself on this at school. I snook into the school library because the library has the only computers in the school, except the office, and signed myself up at a computer.
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oh?? n' what did you find out???
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Hi TITANICsoul,
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Why would you assume I go to school, or that I am of school age? I did attend when I was younger, but I left school years ago. Quote: lol... i have never of what you wrote before.. lol You mean the information about the binoculars? I hope you found it interesting. Quote: but there is a book called TITANIC&OLYMPIC, THE TRUTH BEHIND THE CONSPIRACY.. maybe you can buy it... I saw the book’s text before it was published and helped with some of the research, so I don’t see much point in buying another copy. Quote: sorry but im kinda busy..! Sorry about what? Hi onix1996, Quote:
See my post above, where I said: ‘One regarded theory, based upon testimony, is that after David Blair (the ship's original second officer) left the ship, he neglected to inform anyone as to what he had done with the binoculars. It has been theorised that Blair left them locked in his cabin (which became Lightoller's). Lookout George Symons asked Lightoller about them, but Lightoller had a quick look in one of the officers' cabins (possibly Murdoch's) and could not find them -- apparently not looking in his own. Chief Officer Wilde confirmed to Symons that there were no binoculars for the lookouts. As I've said, there's more information in the enquiry transcripts and report, but we do know that the remaining officers appeared to be unaware of the location of any binoculars.’ I’d be interested in seeing any primary source evidence that indicates that the binoculars were actually taken ashore at Southampton and left there…There would be no reason to take them ashore in the first place, IMHO. Best regards, Mark. |
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Re: What would you change? | #36 |
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SORRY... I THOUGHT U ARE MY AGE...! LOL N' FOR THE BOOK THAT'S A GOOD..!
YUP I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THAT .. I MEAN THE BINOCULARS LOCKED IN AN OFFICE ROOM... |
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Hi Titanicsoul,
No worries, I'm sure I was your age once, if I am now older than you!  Best wishes, Mark. |
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Posted on: 2005/11/10 16:54
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Re: What would you change? | #38 |
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What I don't get is how some of you all make comments (the silly comments specifically) about what you would have done to make it better. You really think you are that much smarter than Andrews (or the crew for that matter)? Titanic was already technological miracle for her time, and you think you could have done better?
How about this, pretend you know very little of why/how she sink (decisions made by crew). Or even pretend like it hasn't happened. Just use what you know about the ship's structure. Now tell me what you would do and why. Try just using some physics here; just really put your self in the shoes of the crew. Personally I can't say that I'd done much different. I know I wouldn't have killed the engines to avoid the ice. I could say I would have been cautious when I got a couple ice warnings, then later noticed a drop in temperature. I would have stopped. But I don't really know what Smith's motivations for moving on were. Most likely i would have left the rudder as it was, and left the hull as it was. I probably would have brought all the bulkheads up. Jessica |
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Re: What would you change? | #39 |
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Very nice. Stay in school, it's important.Quote:
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Posted on: 2005/11/22 22:13
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The human element (at the time) had a few flaws. Certainly with respect to the ice warnings that were not taken to the bridge. The human decision to carry less lifeboats that were needed. |
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Posted on: 2005/11/23 11:35
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