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Re: What would you change?
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If you're referring back to the what ifs, then...

The Marconi Company/or 1st Officer Murdoch should have strongly instructed Jack Phillips and Harold Bride that the iceberg warnings take priority over passengers' incoming/outgoing messages. For that was one area that needed improving.

Talking to Lights, my friend who is an reincarnatee of 2nd Officer Charles Herbert Lightoller, told me that had Will received those iceberg warnings as he should have...he would have posted them on the bulletin board.
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They should of put the bow where the stern was and the stern where the bow was. Then the propelyrs would of choped the iceburg to bits!!!!
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It seems that nobody would like to change anything regarding the Titanic's design or fate. It is a perfect true life chain of events which cannot be undone or repeated.
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Interesting stuff
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Re: What would you change?
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onix1996 wrote:
Wasn't the Second Officer Mr. Lightroller?
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Mark Chirnside wrote:
See my post above, where I said: ‘One regarded theory, based upon testimony, is that after David Blair (the ship's original second officer) left the ship, he neglected to inform anyone as to what he had done with the binoculars. It has been theorised that Blair left them locked in his cabin (which became Lightoller's). Lookout George Symons asked Lightoller about them, but Lightoller had a quick look in one of the officers' cabins (possibly Murdoch's) and could not find them -- apparently not looking in his own. Chief Officer Wilde confirmed to Symons that there were no binoculars for the lookouts. As I've said, there's more information in the enquiry transcripts and report, but we do know that the remaining officers appeared to be unaware of the location of any binoculars.’


Hi Onix1996.

If you read what I have written again, it states that Blair was the original second officer, prior to his departure (and Lightoller's appointment as second officer).

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Re: What would you change?
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Wasn't the Second Officer Mr. Lightroller? Quote:

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Hi TITANICsoul,

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TITANICsoul wrote:
erm.. hahaha i don't like school! i cannot enjoy it lol don't know if you can.. =P


Why would you assume I go to school, or that I am of school age? I did attend when I was younger, but I left school years ago.

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lol... i have never of what you wrote before.. lol


You mean the information about the binoculars? I hope you found it interesting.

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but there is a book called TITANIC&OLYMPIC, THE TRUTH BEHIND THE CONSPIRACY.. maybe you can buy it...


I saw the book’s text before it was published and helped with some of the research, so I don’t see much point in buying another copy.

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sorry but im kinda busy..!


Sorry about what?


Hi onix1996,

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Actually, people thought the Binoculars were left in South Hampton but they weren't left in South Hampton, People thought they were left and just saying I also Registered myself on this at school. I snook into the school library because the library has the only computers in the school, except the office, and signed myself up at a computer.


See my post above, where I said: ‘One regarded theory, based upon testimony, is that after David Blair (the ship's original second officer) left the ship, he neglected to inform anyone as to what he had done with the binoculars. It has been theorised that Blair left them locked in his cabin (which became Lightoller's). Lookout George Symons asked Lightoller about them, but Lightoller had a quick look in one of the officers' cabins (possibly Murdoch's) and could not find them -- apparently not looking in his own. Chief Officer Wilde confirmed to Symons that there were no binoculars for the lookouts. As I've said, there's more information in the enquiry transcripts and report, but we do know that the remaining officers appeared to be unaware of the location of any binoculars.’

I’d be interested in seeing any primary source evidence that indicates that the binoculars were actually taken ashore at Southampton and left there…There would be no reason to take them ashore in the first place, IMHO.

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Just read the book: 882 1/2 Answers To Your Questions About The Titanic or Titanic.
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GooseGrl172 wrote:
What I don't get is how some of you all make comments (the silly comments specifically) about what you would have done to make it better. You really think you are that much smarter than Andrews (or the crew for that matter)? Titanic was already technological miracle for her time, and you think you could have done better?

How about this, pretend you know very little of why/how she sink (decisions made by crew). Or even pretend like it hasn't happened. Just use what you know about the ship's structure. Now tell me what you would do and why. Try just using some physics here; just really put your self in the shoes of the crew.

Personally I can't say that I'd done much different. I know I wouldn't have killed the engines to avoid the ice. I could say I would have been cautious when I got a couple ice warnings, then later noticed a drop in temperature. I would have stopped. But I don't really know what Smith's motivations for moving on were. Most likely i would have left the rudder as it was, and left the hull as it was. I probably would have brought all the bulkheads up.

Jessica


The human element (at the time) had a few flaws. Certainly with respect to the ice warnings that were not taken to the bridge. The human decision to carry less lifeboats that were needed.
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Very nice. Stay in school, it's important.Quote:

TITANICsoul wrote:
yes.. we were talking about the binoculars, geesh they got lost n' nobody knows how that happened...


i think it was treachery on titanic....!

i'll post more stuff later, i'm in school lol



cyaaaa
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What I don't get is how some of you all make comments (the silly comments specifically) about what you would have done to make it better. You really think you are that much smarter than Andrews (or the crew for that matter)? Titanic was already technological miracle for her time, and you think you could have done better?

How about this, pretend you know very little of why/how she sink (decisions made by crew). Or even pretend like it hasn't happened. Just use what you know about the ship's structure. Now tell me what you would do and why. Try just using some physics here; just really put your self in the shoes of the crew.

Personally I can't say that I'd done much different. I know I wouldn't have killed the engines to avoid the ice. I could say I would have been cautious when I got a couple ice warnings, then later noticed a drop in temperature. I would have stopped. But I don't really know what Smith's motivations for moving on were. Most likely i would have left the rudder as it was, and left the hull as it was. I probably would have brought all the bulkheads up.

Jessica
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