Interesting, comando........your analysis is intriguing. I appreciate a different view on things.......but I want to ask you: if your analysis is true, which you do build a strong case, why do the "experts" of the Titanic disaster seem to feel the opposite? They feel like the ship would have had a better chance of surviving a head on impact. Now.....could it be that they are not engineers? But how could they state such a drastic opinion on national tv without consulting such experts in the field of engineering? My point is this.........we have people like Ken Marschall saying the ship could have survived, and we have people(like yourself) saying something else. And BOTH of you give good reasons why you believe the way you do. SO..........who's right?

NO definatly not. As i said the titanic had 3 props 2 support and one main. It was recored going 21 knots before it hit the ice burg... now a ship that weighs 45,000 tons traveling at a meare 17 knots alone takes about 10 minutes to fully stop using only 2 support props like the titanic had. Thing is that the titanic was going 21 knots well lets say the spotter saw the burg about a thousand feet from the titanic. The order gets through to the engine room to throw engines full revrese. by the time this order goes out the ship is only 500 feet away from the burg and the props finally start turning in reverse. 400 feet come and the ship's speed has slowed to 19 knots. 200 feet and 17 knots 50 feet and 15 knots inpact around 14 knots now thats a hell lotta force inpacting a burg. a simple test to show you in real life what would happen if it hit straight on is take a credit card and push on the 2 egdes farthest away from each other the card bends the same thing would happen to titanic hitting the burg. i state facts not opinions. its late now i gotta go ill explain more later

Yes it would, Olympic class liners where desinged to withstand a head on impact, it would of been fine. Like I said in another 3 threads about this, so did a few others.

Interesting........however, if what you have stated is true, in your opinion, would the ship have survived a head on collision with the iceberg?

IN fact the ship was recorded going 21 knots on all ahead full. Reversing engines at this speed means that the propellers cavitated. Cavitation is where air gets sucked in by the propellers causing a significant decrease in thrust or pull.So at 21 knots a ship that wweights about 45 thousand tons being ordered to reverse full will definately cavitate. The ship had 3 propellers not 2 not 1. 3 propellers, 1 main 2 auxillary or support propellers. The ship had a different engine for each prop (as do most cruisers) The main prop did not have a revers transmission. The 2 auxillary did. NOW then the 2 auxillary propellers were 2/3 the size of the main propeller. When the order went out for revese the main propeller stoped turning. In the order also said hard to port (left) witch means one auxillary propeller was to slow its reverse speed and let the other go full reverse. THE DESIGN FLAW---- the auxillary propellers where too small. When the props where thrown in reverse one was doing more work than the other witch made the ship tilt to the right a couple degrees and made the propeller doing full reverse cavitate. Witch in fact did not help the turning process at all. ANOTHER DESIGN FLAW---- was the rudder, it was simply too small for the ship (im not gonna get into details). heres a visual of whitch direction each propeller was pulling\pushing.
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I have studied trust in seacraft and propulsion and ballistics in avaition for 8 years this is my best explination of what happened

Would it have been possible if the Titanic had of hit the iceburg head on to have sunk a little bit and get grounded on the iceburg, pinning it in place. Just if you read anything with an iceburg in it it always tells you that you see only the tip of the iceburg, it can be hundreds of times bigger beneath the surface. Just a query that i have been wondering for a while

True, there would have been damage to the bow if it had rammed the iceberg, although I'm not convinced that hundreds would have died as a result. I am just basing my response on the experts opinon (on video) who state that the Titianic reversed her engines before the collision. However, you are right, they were not there and we can not be 100% certain that the engines were reversed in attempts to slow the ship down. I do think that the Titanic did however, stand a better chance of surviving the impact had the ship hit the iceberg head on. Instead, the iceberg popped rivets and plates along nearly a third of the ship's length below the water line. There was no chance that the ship could survive such an impact (obviously).

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A slight possibly, but the ship would've been utterly devastated with hundreds dead in the forward sections, even at reduced speed. Such a collision could very well've sank Titanic, as well. We really don't know.



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It's doubtful any of this made a real difference. For one thing, we're not entirely certain the engines were actually reversed prior to the collision. Some survivor testimony indicates that the engine room responded after the collision. Even if they did, how great an effect it would've made is also unclear. As the bow initially swung to port, the stern swung to starboard. Having slightly more time to make the turn, a grazing blow forward could've instead turned into a more direct impact further aft. If that would've been better or worse is hard to determine.

Thanks...........I enjoy talking to people who also have a good working knowledge of the disaster. It makes conversation a lot more fun. I think I've been obsessed with it since I was a kid. Hmmm.......

Yes . . . That is correct..

uhm.. you're a very knoleageable person..

There are a people on this site that I like to talk because of that..