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Re: Jack Could Have Probably Lived!
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I believe, in my opinion, that Jack could have survived if only he and Rose would have taken turns on the wooden headboard that they were on!!!! I get kind of mad everytime I think of him dying in that movie because Rose knew that she could have offered him to switch and take turns with her while he was sitting there freezing his butt off in the water for her!!!!! Its just sad, I mean, Jack could have lived and they could have lived happily ever after , but no, all because she couldn't take the time out to at least offer to take turns with him. But you know, I mean I do think of the fact that maybe it was just to cold for either of them to think straight at that time. Any replies to what I have to say?


this would not have saved him, as he would have still had water on him and still would have been cold, the water was 28 degrees farenheight (-2.22 degrees centergrade) at this tempreture you would freeze to death in 3 to 4 minutes,
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Re: Jack Could Have Probably Lived!
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I believe, in my opinion, that Jack could have survived if only he and Rose would have taken turns on the wooden headboard that they were on!!!! I get kind of mad everytime I think of him dying in that movie because Rose knew that she could have offered him to switch and take turns with her while he was sitting there freezing his butt off in the water for her!!!!! Its just sad, I mean, Jack could have lived and they could have lived happily ever after , but no, all because she couldn't take the time out to at least offer to take turns with him. But you know, I mean I do think of the fact that maybe it was just to cold for either of them to think straight at that time. Any replies to what I have to say?


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ill neva let go wrote: this would not have saved him, as he would have still had water on him and still would have been cold, the water was 28 degrees farenheight (-2.22 degrees centergrade) at this tempreture you would freeze to death in 3 to 4 minutes,


You are wrong. If they had taken turns they would both die. Remember the water was below -0º F. It would of been possible that If they were both on the board, they would of both saved themselves.

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Posted on: 2007/1/22 3:12
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Re: Jack Could Have Probably Lived!
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HE WOULD FREEZE 2 DEATH IN THE WATER IN 3 TO 4 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have done alot of research on titanic and freezing water, you could not urvive more than 5 minutes in freezeing water
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Ema here,

does this make sence to you?:
If Jack would have lived & died of something else, do u think it would have sad still? Well thats the question for the poll. I dont get it either.

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Re: Jack Could Have Probably Lived!
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For everyones' information, the water temperature that night was 28 degrees Fahrenheit.

They know this because the bridge watch has someone take the temperature every two hours and has it recorded into the ship's log.

Just to clear the matter, it usually takes longer than 3-4 minutes to die in that cold of water from hypothermia. Hypothermia in that temperature takes a little longer (anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour, but not much more).

But another reason that some people may have died sooner is not from hypothermia, but actual suffication. When people are in an environment as cold as that water, they tend not to take normal deep breaths.

Sometimes, if a person gets so cold that they takes shallow breaths, they are not getting enough oxygen and therefore they pass out and die.
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Re: Jack Could Have Probably Lived!
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MGY Friend wrote:

Sometimes, if a person gets so cold that they takes shallow breaths, they are not getting enough oxygen and therefore they pass out and die.
i had an excperiance like this ounce.

we we're going swimming and i jumped in the pool and the water was sooo cold. (probably 60 some degrees or above) but when i came up from under the water and i litterally couldn't breath. i fine though now.
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Ema here,

For the millionth time: Jack never dies! Jeesh. He is just a movie actor that makes movies look cool.

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For the millionth time: Jack never dies! Jeesh. He is just a movie actor that makes movies look cool.


I know that Emanuel. But were that last two posts before yours even about Jack? No! There were concerning hypothermia and water temperature, which were big contributing factors to many of Titanic's real deaths.

If this thread has any use, it is to clear up some questions about how people survived and died that night.
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Re: Jack Could Have Probably Lived!
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Just a point to those who are saying if they had shared the board that would have both lived, that they were stupid and stuff like that because they didn't share the board, if you were in 28 degrees farenhite water and dying of hypothermia plus cold, wet, in great pain and practically dead would you be able to think straight enough to share the board. Also, another point, that when they first got in the water and were getting on the headboard he tried to get on but it almost flipped back on top of them. Plus it was already slightly under water with her on it(if only a couple centimeters at the most). With both of them I think it would not have stayed a float. Even more so, Jack says that when you're in the water you can't think of anything but the pain at the beginning of the movie, I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't think of anything of pain and Jack only thinking of saving her. She had never been in that kind of condition before, when you're not expecting that type of pain it hits even harder and you can barely think.(Speaking from experience here.) Just my opinion of course though.

::EDIT:: P.S. I know that they didn't really exist.

Also, from what I've looked up, there was a Jack(Joseph) Dawson on the ship, he was a cook.
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Or, Jack could have just layed on top of her. lol.
Posted on: 2007/2/4 0:25
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