MGY Friend wrote:
You could say it was all of humankind's fault.

Walter Lord stated that the message of Tianic is her legacy of
"if onlys"

if only she had enough lifeboats
if only her compartments were higher
if only the Californian came to help
if only the Carpathia was nearer
if only they had sighted the iceberg sooner
if only she had slowed down
if only the captain recieved the last iceberg message

and so on, and so on, and so on.......

These "if onlys" apply to many different people in the story .

TippooTib wrote:

Don't forget that Bruce Ismay regarded himself as being "just a passenger," too.

picard1701 wrote:
In My opinion it wasnt anyones fault as it wasnt an accident, but a scam to sink the totalled Olympic after its incident with H.M.S Hawke

This dissertation studies the conspiracy theory published by Robin Gardiner in his 1998 book, Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank? Gardiner alleges that the Titanic and its nearly identical sistership Olympic were swapped as part of an insurance fraud, and the Olympic (posing as Titanic) was scuttled. He believes that the Olympic had been damaged enough to become an economic write off, in a collision with the cruiser HMS Hawke in 1911. As this belief is at the heart of the conspiracy theory, indeed the very reason it is alleged that the ships were swapped, I examine the available evidence surrounding the Olympic’s collision damage – from surveyors’ testimonies, to more recent technical analyses. I argue that there is no reliable evidence to indicate that the damage was worse than admitted and find Gardiner’s research lacking. I move on to discuss Gardiner’s methodology. I am critical of his text for omitting relevant information from key arguments. I also analyse a numberof examples of flawed logic in the text itself, and quote the assessments of several modern researchers who have publicly criticised Gardiner’s work. Finally, I set out to assess the issue of insurance, and to a lesser extent some of the practicalities that would have been involved in swapping the two ships. I present evidence that the Titanic was under-insured, and provide information such as the shipping company’s profits, including reports in the 1912 financial press. I conclude by arguing that the Olympic was not as badly damaged as Gardiner states; that Gardiner’s arguments and methodology are flawed; and that the Titanic’s owners would not have benefited from an insurance fraud.

Downward78 wrote:
it may be scad......i can't recall at this point its been like a month since i saw the documentary that proved the rivets were the problem.

titanicboss wrote:
people can point fingures but they cant say it was the captain falt

as the titanic officer at the time was murdock and captain had retired to bed

and qas well it may be phillips falt as he tolled the carphia to shut up when they wer sending him an ice report as they were stuck for the night when he was working cape race in newfoundlaND

WITH PASSANGER MESSAGES and we cant really point fingers at enyone for this accident so it will remain a mistery