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I think it was the near the titanic :wink: :?: :?: :?: :twisted: :twisted: :!: :!: :!: [/b]
Posted on: 2003/7/30 17:47
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  •  Squall
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Although it would have been difficult seeing as they didn't expect anyting like this to happen, they should have planned a better evacuation plan because the officers (People that loaded the escape boats) should have been better organised!

So I think that it was probably the captain's thought because he should have prepared his staff for this situation.

Would this have been the captain's job?
Posted on: 2003/8/24 3:14
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There are a few!
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I think that there are a few things to blame for it to happen:

1: The main desinger himself, he only put the few lifeboats that were on the ship for show!
2: Ismay, he ordered most of the lifeboats to be lowered with hardly any of its full capacity on them (eg. 28 instead of 64)
3: Fred Fleet, the one in the crows nest. On the night he didn't have his "Binocs" as he called them.
4: Captain Smith, he wasn't taking the messages seriously at all; I guess he though it was true that she was dubbed 'unsinkable'.
5: The passengers, some weren't listening to the messages at all. There was one First Class passenger (I can't remember her name but she was rather famous on her) who, before entering a lifeboat, went down to her cabin to pack and lock all of her possessions because she didn't trust the crew. Some other First Classers went to their cabins too to take their belongings with them; That slowed them down so much that by the time they were finished, it was too late ! Others new the ship was sinking but they didn't care, more than 100 went back to their Smoking Lounges to deal some cards and gamble one last time!! :shock:
6: Crew, for some strange reason they locked the Third Class passengers in every night so they had no hope of escaping.


So if you ask me, it was almost the whole ship's fault! :mrgreen:
Posted on: 2003/8/25 13:46
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Re: There are a few!
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[quote:f3664941a3="Digiteen"]I think that there are a few things to blame for it to happen:

1: The main desinger himself, he only put the few lifeboats that were on the ship for show!
2: Ismay, he ordered most of the lifeboats to be lowered with hardly any of its full capacity on them (eg. 28 instead of 64)

6: Crew, for some strange reason they locked the Third Class passengers in every night so they had no hope of escaping.


So if you ask me, it was almost the whole ship's fault! :mrgreen:[/quote:f3664941a3]

The lifeboats that were placed on the Titanic were those required by the law, plus the four collapsibles that were added. Originally they had planned for more, however they decided that the deck looked too 'cluttered'. They were, however, within the rules of the day, outmoded as they were.
My. Ismay could not be everywhere at once, and on one occasion he was rebuffed by the Fifth Officer and told that he should go away and leave them alone. While one officer loaded boats on the starboard side, another loaded boats on the port side and the two never conferred concerning the passenger loading, as records record that women and children only were loaded on one side, while couples were loaded on the other.
The segregation of the third class passengers (day and night) was due to the rules regarding infectious disease and the ships either had to segregate the third class passengers or the entire ships company would have to be quarantined pending the medical inspections of all aboard. Keeping the third class passengers seperate allowed the first class, second class and all the ships complement (working people) to disembark as soon as they arrived in port, otherwise they faced an additional 14 days aboard.
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Posted on: 2003/9/27 17:04
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