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  •  Anonymous
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Re: Not the Titanic but the Olympic sank !
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not as unlikely as you would think as the program showed
Posted on: 2004/12/13 12:47
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Hi all,

I believe that the titanic was swapped ... seems too organised from the program for it not to have happened that way.

Lisa
Posted on: 2004/12/13 12:51
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lisa_n80 wrote:
Hi all,

I believe that the titanic was swapped ... seems too organised from the program for it not to have happened that way.

Lisa


Same here, i posted a Were the titanic and olympic swapped on the history forum. i didnt get anyone agreeing with me. its nice to see someone that finally does.
Posted on: 2004/12/13 12:53
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It is very unlikely that they were switched but it is not a 100% impossible..I think as a Titanic historian...the theory should be researched just like all sources of the way she sank.

I've posted this already in this topic but this time I've added a bit more:

IF Titanic and Olympic had been switched this is what people think would have happened:

On the 20th September, 1911 the HMS Hawke smashed into the side of Titanic's sister ship Olympic just after Olympic had left Southampton for her 5th voyage. Olympic's starboard side was so badly damaged that it took two weeks just to patch her up! so that she could go to Harland & Wolff, Belfast, UK for 6 weeks of repairs! During this time work was stoped on Titanic.

In February 1912 Olympic returned to Belfast, UK for a new propeller blade, during this time she was right next to her sister Titanic, so if they were switched it would have been done then.

(All of the above is fact)

Some people believe that they were switched because Olympic was no longer sea worthy and It is fact that they recieved no insurance money because Olympic was blamed for the accident.

The real Titanic would have been finished as her sister (during the 6 weeks) and would have had a long career as Olympic.

The real Olympic would have been refited as Titanic (don't forget they were almost identical).

The plan would have been to sink Olympic and all the passengers be safely transfered to the Californian and maybe other IMM owned ships but things went terribly wrong.

But:

The flag ship of the White Star Line sinking on her maiden voyage is not very good for the lines publicity.

JP Morgan was a very rich man.

Would it have been easier to sell Olympic for scrap and at least get some money??????????????

Tom


The above is what I posted earlier in this topic.

Tom
Posted on: 2004/12/13 12:53
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yes but white star were in financial trouble.
Posted on: 2004/12/13 12:54
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  •  Anonymous
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Hi,

To be honest I dont think they were in financial trouble because since 1902 the IMM group had been the parent company of the White Star Line.

IMM was owned by a rich financier named JP Morgan.

Tom
Posted on: 2004/12/13 13:01
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  •  Anonymous
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Tom Dyer wrote:
Hi,

To be honest I dont think they were in financial trouble because since 1902 the IMM group had been the parent company of the White Star Line.

IMM was owned by a rich financier named JP Morgan.

Tom


You may say that tom but it doesnt mean anything. like with todays car firms. GM one of the biggest car firms in the world who own such makers as vauxhall. they bought daewoo last year, and all thought gm is very rich daewoo was still in money troubles. just like IMM and White star. :hammer:
Posted on: 2004/12/13 13:17
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It is very unlikely that the White Star Line was in financial trouble because of JP Morgan's money that was behind the line.

By 1930 the line was no longer owned by IMM and the line got into terible financial difficulties mostly due to the great depression and that resulted in the Cunard White Star merger.

Tom
Posted on: 2004/12/13 19:56
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Just for the titanic and olympic it cost white star 3 million pounds to build. they werent just going to sit back and and lose the olympic
Posted on: 2004/12/14 13:23
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  •  Anonymous
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Yes, but I think it would be best to sell Olympic for scrap if she was no longer seaworthy.

Switching the Olympic with Titanic then sinking their flag ship on her maiden voyage would be the worst thing that they could do to the lines publicity.

Anyway Olympic was back in service by 11th November 1911 and Titanic was not ready until April.

I used to have an open mind on the switch theory but I have now decided it is very unlikely.

:pint:

Tom
Posted on: 2004/12/14 13:51
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