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  •  Johno
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Re: ship that didn't help?
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rightly so, he should have done his job
Posted on: 2005/4/15 16:54
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  •  Anonymous
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cape race was like a gossip ring. He was too busy gossiping and sending out passanger messages.
Posted on: 2005/4/15 14:50
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  •  Johno
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maybe phillips was busy or he wasn't bothered about taking it to smith
Posted on: 2005/4/15 11:24
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The wirless operator on the californain wired the titanic that they had stopped for the night, they were surronded by ice. Jack Phillips the wireless operator on the titaic was in the middle of cape race, a kind of gossip ring in the shipping business. The californian was 19 miles away so when their operator came through is nearly blasted phillips ears. he replyed, "shut up, shut up, i'm in the middle of cape race." So the operator on the californian shut of his radio and went to bed. Why didn't phillps take that message to captian smith? If he had i believe smith would have stopped for the night. the man had a spottless record, he never would have risked the lives of so many had he have known.
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  •  Johno
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exactly my point, have white star line ever said anything about the white flares being used
Posted on: 2005/4/14 17:45
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Yeah for those reasons. Titanic was too far away to be distingueshed as sinking, and the white flares, well there was nothing, sinister about them. So knowone saw the danger.
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  •  Johno
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Capt.Lord should have made out a statement of why he didn't come to Titanics aid.

He must have certainly had a reason for not doing so. There is no reason for him to take such a burden into his grave. The white flares were white mainly to symbolise the company's name which is white star line. Red is the standard color for a flare gun used to signal for help. When the Titanic was sinking, white flare guns were shot off from the ship. The californian and other ships many miles away saw the white flares, but did not interpret the white flares as warning messages.
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Indeed, a great burden for the remainder of his life, and that of the crew.
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  •  Stardreamer
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I'm fairly sure that Capt. Lord and his bridge officers took some pretty hefty demons with them to their graves. The British inquiry didn't take any action against them though. There was speculation on another site I visited that already having one glaring example of British bad seamanship dominating the world press, the BOT didn't want to expand on it by dragging Lord through the mud of official charges.

The Californian could probably have saved a lot of lives had she responded but it is not sure if she would have arrived in time to evacuate everyone from Titanic before she sank. It took her about an hour and a half to get the Carpathia the next morning and at night in the ice field it would probably have been at least two hours to reach Titantic so she probably would have arrived just before or soon after she went down.

I just found the Titanic Inquiry Project site
http://www.titanicinquiry.org/index.html
This is the first chance I've had to actually read the transcript from the US and British inquiries and I'm learning a lot of little details I didn't know.
Posted on: 2005/2/25 16:03
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  •  brian412
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That's what I don't get about Capt. Lord. If you saw a ship firing
up rockets,wouldn't you try and investigate? Almost anybody
probably would. I sometimes wonder how many more people would have been saved if Californian arrived before Titanic sank.
Posted on: 2005/2/25 3:59
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