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Re: Captain Smith......Did he jump, go down with his ship bravely standing at the wheel or survive? | #59 |
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Yeah, thats what I thought when I first read the story about that. It sounds to me like old Pyral was actually not sane... Maybe he dreamt the entire thing.. Who knows. But yeah, I mean if Smith did somehow escape and make it to a ship, weather it was the Carpathia or not, somebody would have told. A story like that couldn't have been kept shut. |
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Re: Captain Smith......Did he jump, go down with his ship bravely standing at the wheel or survive? | #57 |
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Hmm... I've heard theory #6, but how would Captain Smith be rescued without the press finding out? If it were true, that would've meant that Captain Smith was in hiding (not saying that he would, though). You've got to remember that he had a family, and if he tried to contact them, the news media would've known about it. Was it a mistaken identity? Most likely. I just don't see a sceneable person not contacting their family, after a disaster like the Titanic, and letting them know that they're ok.
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Posted on: 2006/4/18 7:57
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Re: Captain Smith......Did he jump, go down with his ship bravely standing at the wheel or survive? | #56 |
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There are so many theories surrounding what Captain Smith's final moments were it's unreal. I'll list a few:
#1. Captain Smith is last seen standing on the bridge. #2. Captain Smith is reported by Harold Bride as jumping from the bridge into the water just as it was about to be submerged. #3. Another claims Smith said "Be British boys, be British" before going under with the ship. #4. Captain Smith is seen handing a child to a lifeboat, and after attempting to bring him aboard the boat, he shook it off and swam a short distance before becoming still. There are several stories with Smith handing a infant child to those in a lifeboat. #5. A passenger reports that Smith was washed off the deck of the Titanic when she lunged forward. #6. One of the most interesting stories of what happened to Captain E. J. Smith goes was reported Captain Peter Pryal in the Baltimore, MD Press on July 20th 1912. "Captain Pryal, one of the oldest mariners in Baltimore and well known in shipping circles, who sailed with Captain Smith when he was the commander of the Majestic, made the startling statement today that he saw and talked to Captain Smith at Baltimore & St. Paul Streets. He declares he walked up to Captain Smith and said, 'Captain Smith, how are you?' Then the man answered, 'Very well, Pryal, but please don't detain me, I am on business.' He says he followed the man, saw him buy a ticket for Washington, and as he passed through the gate of the railway station he turned, recognized Pryal again, and remarked 'Be good, shipmate, until we meet again.' 'There is no possibility of my being mistaken,' said Captain Pryal, 'I have known Captain Smith too long. I would know him even without his beard. I firmly believe that he was saved and in some mysterious manner brought to this country. I am willing to swear to my statement. Many persons may think I am insane, but I have told Dr. Warfield of the occurrence and he will vouch for my sanity.' Dr. Warfield said that Captain Pryal was perfectly sane. The captain is well-to-do and is a consistent church member." That one of course seems outragously false, since someone would have to have known Smith made it off the ship and into or "onto" a lifeboat somehow. These are just a few of the many stories that have been reported of Smith's last moments. We'll never know exactly what happend to Captain Smith...but we can always speculate eh? |
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Posted on: 2006/4/18 5:18
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Re: Captain Smith......Did he jump, go down with his ship bravely standing at the wheel or survive? | #55 |
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Salaam, Rose.
>Others say he was witnessed going down at the wheel (which is of >course the way the movie portrayed it). The important thing to remember, though, is that no *survivor* ever claimed to have seen Smith go down while standing at the wheel. That being the case, other people's statements that Smith went down at the wheel are just undocumented claims without any eyewitness testimony to back them up. Achmet |
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Posted on: 2006/4/10 10:44
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Re: Captain Smith......Did he jump, go down with his ship bravely standing at the wheel or survive? | #54 |
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It's a fantastic mystery. One of which may never be solved...
I personally think he probably did go down with Titanic. According to what I've read and heard, Titanic's maiden voyage was to be Captain Smith's Last voyage, before retiring to spend more time with his family. Captain Smith was an honorable captain, who'd most likely go down with his ship (I say 'most likely' because survival instince are quite unpredictable, when they kick in). Did he go to the into the bridge (like on the movie) and held onto the wheel, when the windows imploded? We may never know. Still, it's a question to ponder, while you microwave a burrito, or something. |
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Posted on: 2006/4/9 20:35
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Re: Captain Smith......Did he jump, go down with his ship bravely standing at the wheel or survive? | #53 |
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Gday everyone i have a book called Titanic investergation
it say before Bruce Ismay jump in the life boat he saw captain smith walk in to the wheel house and close the door so he must have gone down with the ship as the saying goes every good captain goes down with the ship |
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Posted on: 2006/2/4 11:07
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Re: Captain Smith......Did he jump, go down with his ship bravely standing at the wheel or survive? | #52 |
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Well, he was probably crushed. If he stayed in the wheelhouse and the windows gave way all that water would force him against a wall and crush him. It's possible that he held onto the wheel for dear life and drowned. However, he had to make some form of escape (Come on!! It's hard to just float their and drown). We know what happened to JJ Astor. When his body was pulled from the sea they found 2,000 pounds in his pocket. His face and torso was mangled and covered in coal. He was probably (I mean PROBABLY as being DEFINATELY) hit by a funnel.
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Posted on: 2006/1/23 2:03
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Re: Captain Smith......Did he jump, go down with his ship bravely standing at the wheel or survive? | #51 |
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Re: Captain Smith......Did he jump, go down with his ship bravely standing at the wheel or survive? | #50 |
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I think you mean he went down with another 1522 brave people! I get really anoyed with people using only the wealthy popular gentlemen of first class as a sort of statue of bravery I'm not trying to get at you their Kyle but the point is people have been doing exactly that from the very day the Titanic went down, the stories of bravery from characters like Captain Smith. I mean its hardly likely that Captain Smith swam to a life boat put a small child into a boat waved goodbye and sank beneath the water is it?! But this is a story that was reported to have happened as soon as the Carpathia docked. I guess I think he went down on the Ship Bravely as did all that lost their lives that night. I am not a fan of the belief that he went into the wheel house either as I think he would of been their untill the last few minutes, although I guess this is a realistic story. |
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