[quote:ebc38b4767="Megantic06"]they shouldve just showed things like all the classes,things like taht, and not came up with fictional characters in my opinion.[/quote:ebc38b4767]

Well, from what I understand the only fictitional characters are Rose, Cal, Cal's lacky, Rose's mum, Jack [though it later came out there was apparently a J Dawson on the ship] plus his two mates [fabrizio, I can't recall the name of the other one at this time], all the others [Molly Brown, Captain Smith, Murdoch etc] were real people.

I feel the film was more about the human eliment of the disaster, what the people were going through in the final minutes and what lessons were learnt rather than just about the ship. I can not watch the scene of the lifeboat going around the sea of bodies without been affected. It's a tragedy that should never of happened.

Helen

[quote:590d8fd2dc="bess"][quote:590d8fd2dc="titanic over"]It is rare book but it's called [i:590d8fd2dc]The sinking of Titianic and great sea disasters[/i:590d8fd2dc] Copyright 1912.[/quote:590d8fd2dc]

thanks, i'll keep a look out for it. after spending a long time doing research into the lives of the officers i personally dont think any of them shot themselves, maybe a crew member who was mistaken for a officer but not one of the actual officers. but if you think will murdoch did shot him self then that is your opinion and thats fine :D[/quote:590d8fd2dc]

I am very familair with that book as I used to own a first edition of it (yellow cover with an oval photgraph of a sinking ship glued on it). Sadly I was offered a price I couldn't refuse and sold it a year or so ago......

Anyway, it was a pretty good book considering it was one of those 'reaction' things put out in the wake of a disaster. I do seem to recall an eyewitness account of Officer Murdock shooting himself. And interestingly there was a couple of eyewitness accounts--and a pretty good eyewitness drawing of Titanic breaking in half before she went down--a theory that was also doubted for many years.
Actually, I do believe book has been reprinted in paperback in recent years minus the other great sea disasters--now only containing the Titanic parts.

And getting back to this thread....
The movie should have been named "Heart of the Ocean" as it was just a good love story [i:590d8fd2dc]set[/i:590d8fd2dc] on Titanic. That title would have been very appropriate, but I can see why it was named 'Titanic'...to make sure all us nuts were sure to see it. The title 'Titanic' would make you think it would be a more general film though.

Well, IMO, the way movies are today, to get the audiences attention they have to put in: some gorey stuff, a little historical stuff, maybe some questionable things and of course a love interest? If it was just about Titanic, it would not have grossed as much money as it did. Sadly that is the way the movie industry is today.

I like the old version with Barbara Stanwyck but do you think it would have gone over as big as Cameron's today?

i thought it was a good moviebut i went to see the exbit at the science center and that was more moving

if anyone would like to read more on the subject of an officer shooting himself, you might like to look here:
http://home.comcast.net/%7Ebwormst/titanic/shots/shots.htm

was the author of this book a survivor? what is the authors name?
if you ever feel the urge to write what it said about murdoch shooting himself, you can PM or email it to me. :P

It is thought to be he First [i:7a058413cd]Officer[/i:7a058413cd] William Murduch shot himslelf, but he wasn't in a lifeboat. I misread.

[quote:d6a57dcea6="titanic over"]It is rare book but it's called [i:d6a57dcea6]The sinking of Titianic and great sea disasters[/i:d6a57dcea6] Copyright 1912.[/quote:d6a57dcea6]

thanks, i'll keep a look out for it. after spending a long time doing research into the lives of the officers i personally dont think any of them shot themselves, maybe a crew member who was mistaken for a officer but not one of the actual officers. but if you think will murdoch did shot him self then that is your opinion and thats fine :D

hmmmmmm ya no i remmeber seein that 2 on a website bout titanic i dont remember wut it was but i think i saw that 2 so it mite be true

It is rare book but it's called [i:385c351ee4]The sinking of Titianic and great sea disasters[/i:385c351ee4] Copyright 1912.