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Re: the first funnel collapse | #26 |
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Not only did it have sixteen, but I believe that the Olympic class liners were the only one's afloat with that many, and they went up higher than on other vessels as well. At that time, these vessels were the state of the art in safety and design. Only the Titanic's engines were conventional, but they were the state of the art in steam reciprocating engines of the day. Daniel |
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Posted on: 2007/4/16 16:14
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If I may, the time the forward funnel fell. Imagine the listing Titanic was to the water. Those chords holding the funnel would have to be very strong to hold it. My idea is they broke due to the weight not being able to be supported.
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Posted on: 2007/4/15 5:17
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redairborne22 wrote: Well, it was sometime between 21:15-12:45 am when the bulkhead between boiler rooms 5&6 collapsed according to "A Night to Remember" by Walter Lord. Boiler room 5 was the last room known to be damaged (about a 2 foot "gash) past the watertight door theat separated it from Boiler room 6 (foreward) and Boiler room 4 (aft). Funny thing is, when the water reached Boiler room 4 at 1:20, it came up from benaeath the plates in the floor. That's a quite a bit before the "wave" that came near the final plunge. I'm sorry, I had the wrong boiler room. I was actually refering to boiler room 4, which gave away around 2:10 AM. Charles Pellegrino stated that this is what really started "the final plunge". When this happened, Pellegrino wrote: "As Titanic's bow plunges under, Scotland Road and other avenues of seepage stop transmitting water aft and send a storm surge forward." |
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Posted on: 2007/3/9 3:57
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Well, it was sometime between 21:15-12:45 am when the bulkhead between boiler rooms 5&6 collapsed according to "A Night to Remember" by Walter Lord. Boiler room 5 was the last room known to be damaged (about a 2 foot "gash) past the watertight door theat separated it from Boiler room 6 (foreward) and Boiler room 4 (aft). Funny thing is, when the water reached Boiler room 4 at 1:20, it came up from benaeath the plates in the floor. That's a quite a bit before the "wave" that came near the final plunge.
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Posted on: 2007/3/7 21:19
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DANNTJ wrote: IF ONLY THEY PUT 10 COMPARTMENTS IN!!! WHY GOD WHY!!!lol The Titanic actually had 16 watertight compartments. The problem was, 1. The compartment bulkheads (walls) were not high enough, 2. They did not have real watertight tops to them. So, the ship filled up kind of like when you put water in an icecube tray. When one cube square fills with water, the water then spills over the next one. |
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Posted on: 2007/3/7 18:13
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IF ONLY THEY PUT 10 COMPARTMENTS IN!!! WHY GOD WHY!!!lol
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Posted on: 2007/3/7 17:27
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Re: the first funnel collapse | #20 |
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If you are refering to the new theories which I am not too informed on, then maybe, I don't know.
However, I have always heared that the wave was cause by a sudden dip in the bow and superstructure, as if one of the bulkheads probably like compartment number 5 or 6, finally gave totally in. That, and the fact that you have all the new entries for water (windows, cargo holds, vents, and soon the staircase). |
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Posted on: 2007/3/7 15:57
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Just a thought, but isn't it possible that the "wave" was actually the bow separating and diving under as Titanic broke up? I'm STILL amazed that most of her boilers are still in place, indicating a possible break-up at a shallower angle.
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Posted on: 2007/3/7 13:22
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i think it was a combination of the expansion piont breaking abd the guy wires snapping. and the wave
sorry guys this forum is odd the new post are in the front i think they are in the back. sorry for the double post! yea that copuld happen. its a theory anyway. |
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Posted on: 2007/3/6 19:59
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. csxman wrote: the expansion point theory. it could happened i dont know. but we must remember that that expansion poit is directly in front of the grand staircase so...... Infront of the staircase, and behind the first funnel right? It seems likely that if the ship "popped opened" up quickly, that that jarring motion could have caused strain on the guidelines. Maybe?  |
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Posted on: 2007/3/6 15:49
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