About the ice warnings, though: Don't forget that many of these never actually reached the bridge, and of the few that did, Captain Smith never saw them. There were only one or two that he actually saw. Therefore, his knowledge of the ice ahead was severely fragmentary and limited, so he did not know it was a huge ice field.

Yea, I was going to say that, but I forgot to mention it in my above post and I hate editing it..so..yea....lol..I agree

The ship received Ice warnings before it even departed Southampton! And considering Smith wasn't on the bridge at the time of impact, Murdoch was, you can't really blame Smith for not turning the ship. At night icebergs are dark and with no breaking water at the base it makes them even harder to see. What they should have done is what the Californian did and stopped for the night.

Well, the Captain had been getting ice warnings the whole trip. It was well known that there was much ice where he was heading. But you have to figure, he'd been doing his job for quite some time of his life...he, like the movie stated, figured with all of his experience he would be able to do something should the ocassion call for it.

Maybe there was something stronger and harder that wasn't very popular at the time. If the Capt. did turn the ship when he recieved the first message, then he wouldn't have had to worry about hitting the iceberg head on or on the side and Titanic wouldn't have sunk. We may never know.

Was there anything stronger than iron in that time?? And again, I heard had they not tried to steer the ship around the berg, and hit it head on, they would have made it to New York. Whether it's true or not is another thing, but that's what I heard in a documentary.

Maybe if Titanic wasn't made of iron, instead something harder and stronger. And the Capt would've turned the ship when he got the 1st iceberg message, then it probably wouldn't have sunk.

Whoops! Sorry, I meant D deck. Thanks for catching me! :wink:

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[quote:8ff6203888]Actually, may I also point out that several bulkheads extended as high as B deck;[/quote:8ff6203888]

This is untrue, if you're referring to Titanic. Unless it's a typo?

However, it's accurate when applied to Olympic after 1913 and the Britannic after her spring/summer 1912 redesign.

[quote:8ff6203888] believe that in an interview after the fact he stated that had he been in that situation, he would've either ordered "full speed astern" OR "hard a-starboard," but not both, because he knew that that would decrease the likelihood of missing the berg.[/quote:8ff6203888]

I'd be really interested in reading that Lightoller interview...it makes a fascinating point of discussion.

One wonders what Lightoller thought of the evidence that Murdoch had ordered 'full astern'...particularly since it's been established that Titanic's engines were not reversed prior to the collision.

Best regards,

Mark.