[quote:f3664941a3="Digiteen"]I think that there are a few things to blame for it to happen:

1: The main desinger himself, he only put the few lifeboats that were on the ship for show!
2: Ismay, he ordered most of the lifeboats to be lowered with hardly any of its full capacity on them (eg. 28 instead of 64)

6: Crew, for some strange reason they locked the Third Class passengers in every night so they had no hope of escaping.


So if you ask me, it was almost the whole ship's fault! :mrgreen:[/quote:f3664941a3]

The lifeboats that were placed on the Titanic were those required by the law, plus the four collapsibles that were added. Originally they had planned for more, however they decided that the deck looked too 'cluttered'. They were, however, within the rules of the day, outmoded as they were.
My. Ismay could not be everywhere at once, and on one occasion he was rebuffed by the Fifth Officer and told that he should go away and leave them alone. While one officer loaded boats on the starboard side, another loaded boats on the port side and the two never conferred concerning the passenger loading, as records record that women and children only were loaded on one side, while couples were loaded on the other.
The segregation of the third class passengers (day and night) was due to the rules regarding infectious disease and the ships either had to segregate the third class passengers or the entire ships company would have to be quarantined pending the medical inspections of all aboard. Keeping the third class passengers seperate allowed the first class, second class and all the ships complement (working people) to disembark as soon as they arrived in port, otherwise they faced an additional 14 days aboard.
Will

I think that there are a few things to blame for it to happen:

1: The main desinger himself, he only put the few lifeboats that were on the ship for show!
2: Ismay, he ordered most of the lifeboats to be lowered with hardly any of its full capacity on them (eg. 28 instead of 64)
3: Fred Fleet, the one in the crows nest. On the night he didn't have his "Binocs" as he called them.
4: Captain Smith, he wasn't taking the messages seriously at all; I guess he though it was true that she was dubbed 'unsinkable'.
5: The passengers, some weren't listening to the messages at all. There was one First Class passenger (I can't remember her name but she was rather famous on her) who, before entering a lifeboat, went down to her cabin to pack and lock all of her possessions because she didn't trust the crew. Some other First Classers went to their cabins too to take their belongings with them; That slowed them down so much that by the time they were finished, it was too late ! Others new the ship was sinking but they didn't care, more than 100 went back to their Smoking Lounges to deal some cards and gamble one last time!! :shock:
6: Crew, for some strange reason they locked the Third Class passengers in every night so they had no hope of escaping.


So if you ask me, it was almost the whole ship's fault! :mrgreen:

Although it would have been difficult seeing as they didn't expect anyting like this to happen, they should have planned a better evacuation plan because the officers (People that loaded the escape boats) should have been better organised!

So I think that it was probably the captain's thought because he should have prepared his staff for this situation.

Would this have been the captain's job?

I think it was the near the titanic :wink: :?: :?: :?: :twisted: :twisted: :!: :!: :!: [/b]

Hi i'm new to this but here we go. I think that no one is to bame for so many deaths, certain people in authority such as Bruce Ismay and Captain Smith didn't help anything by wanting to get to their destination earlier and pushing the boat to far. Ultimately I think that the Titanic sinking is just one of those terrible things that happen and no one can stop, but they can contribute to it.

[quote:fc0044c455="PMSLA"]Who do you think is most responsible for the enormous loss of life in the wreck? I tend to blame the cruise line itself or either Captain Smith as he was the final authority on the ship.[/quote:fc0044c455]
Yes, I264m complitely agree with you, Captain Smith is the responsable because he was in agree with this man, I do not remember his name, but this man told him more speed, so Captain Smith was the most responsable, even thought he was not bad :wink:

Unfortunately the Titanics' demise is a part of a lot of different people and designs, for example..Ignoring the many ice warnings, the rudder was too small to turn the 882 ft. ship in a manner to miss a large object, the failure to equip the ship with enough lifeboats, also the missing binoculors that should have been in the crow's nest. The Titanic had a lot going against her that night.

[color=#00d1ff:64621aeed1] Just stopping by and thought I'd add my own opinions to the mix. Just so you know, LupoLA7, there wasn't a big gash in the Titanic, rather, there were several small ones. Just so you know. As for who to blame, I don't think any of us could really pass judgement, unless we were onboard. We don't know all the facts, and while Ismay's behavior (aka going on a lifeboat before all women and children) was despecable, you can't blame an entire shipwreck on him unless you know every single thing that happened, and no one does. So, I'm withholding my own judgement. :wink: [/color:64621aeed1]

I DO FEEL REALLY BAD FOR ALL THE PLP THAT LOST THERE LIVES IN THE 2ND GLASS,IN HONEST ,THEY WERE NOT EVEN THOUGHT OF POOR CHILDREN HAD TO DIE WITH THERE PARENTS NOT EVEN REALLY KNOWING WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN TO THERE LIVES...THEY WERE ON THE SHIP TO MAKE THERE LIFE BETTER ..INSTEAD THEY HAD TO DIE AND THE VERY GUTLESS ESMAY GOT ON THE RESCUE SHIP..I WOULDVE SHOT HIM :x

i agree dat it woz a combination of people who are to blame for the sinkin of titanic . but i think that everyone on board titanic was to sure of their safety because of a popular shipping magazine of the day which deemed titanic 'practically unsinkable'. this caused the crew to be less diligent as they probably would hav been normally .___ also titanic recived many ice warnings on the night it sunk some of them told of the latitude and longitude of a hazardous ice field. at the time of receiving that message titanic was actually within the rectangular ice field described in the telegram, but the crew never bothered to check so they never actually realised the danger they were in