MGY--We had a similar discussion months ago. I completely agree with what you said. I don't see him as a heroic figure at all.

And truly, I don't blame Ismay for getting in a lifeboat. I don't see him as a bad man for doing that.

Anyways, back to Andrews, I do not see him as a hero. I do have to commend him for trying to help people, closing port holes, etc. He meant well, as I'm sure a lot of people did that night. I guess I just have respect that he made a decision to go down with the ship and not try at all to survive. Maybe he felt guilty? Who knows....And about the lifeboats, I don't know who's career was placed on the managing of the number of lifeboats. However, I see J.P. Morgan and other big businessmen as guilty more than just the ship builder. Anyways, the ship can't sink right? Also, remember the times, people could loose everything and be reprimanded for challenging a higher authority in England at that time. Perhaps, he could have pursued it more, but I don't see him as the full blame.

I do think Chief Engineer Joseph Bell and his 4/5 other men with him are hero's. Staying down there, knowing no chance of escape, remaining at their posts to keep the energy going to send telegraphs. It shows more character than I can express.