Well said my friend. I think we were talking a Phillips as well too!

Anyways, Ismay shares no relevance to a "bad guy" to myself. He just happened to own the White Star Line. Furthermore, why is he, or any other man labeled a coward for surviving? Life is a precise thing, if he could get in a boat with more spots for people, why not take it? Makes sense to me. If he was knocking people out of the way, held people at gun point to let him in, etc then I could see a true coward.


Lastly, thank you for bringing up Stanley Lord's name. I've been a "Lordist" (if that's what they call people who defend him) since I read up on it when I was 12-13 years old. The whole involvement with the Californian is complete and full of BS. Both Sen. Smith and Lord Mersy do not look into the full details of what actually happened. Their conclusions were very wrong as well. Mercy claims that the "Californian could have said most, if not all the lives." WOW. No way in the world a dinky vessel like the Californian would have been able to 1. Get there in time. 2. Have enough room for 2,220 souls + their crew. 3. No one on the Californian had any idea the ship was in distress, Stone himself said he didn't think the vessel was in danger. So it's not like they heard SOS and sat their. I also want everyone to know "The Californian had a capacity of 47 passengers and 55 crew members."

Lord and his crew(Groves, Stone, Evans, Gibson, Stewart, etc) were wrongfully accused and made a scapegoat of this whole disaster.

MGY, how great would it have been to be working on the bridge of the Californian on the middle watch? I would love to just go watch and observe what was seen and said between Groves, Stone, and Gibson. Little did these men know was they were witnessing the greatest maritime disaster of all-time.